Bowhunting: Another Buck Shot in the "Dead Zone" Lives

Mike: I shot a buck on our South Georgia property in the “dead zone”--above the lungs and below the spine. It was a 17-yard shot w/a Thunderhead 100 broadhead. I was 20-25 feet high. I drew and he saw me. I knew he might jump the string, but it was my only chance for a shot so I took it. He jumped. 

The shot looked high and I had proof--he ran off w/the arrow sticking halfway out each side. I followed the trail for 40 yards before it became a walking trail. I would find 5-6 blood drops at a trail intersection where he stopped, and then a drop here and there after he continued walking. After about 100-150 yards the trail was lost. After looking for about 6 hours we gave up.

I videoed this buck 1 1/2 months later. He had broken his points fighting, and he was out in a field feeding. I saw no reason to shoot him as I didn't feel he was suffering. He did have a pronounced limp, but many of our bucks do after the rut from fighting. In the video you can plainly see the scars in each side of him--one a little lower on the exit side.
 
Maybe deer exhale as they prepare to spring when they jump the string, like we do when we strain and grunt when we jump or lift something? Maybe this causes a gap between the lungs and spine?

Thanks for the articles and blogs you write on this topic, they help hunters out—Derek

Thoughts:

We have the best hunters on the Web on BIG DEER, and Derek’s well-written and thought-provoking email is more proof of that.

Yes, I believe the Dead Zone (aka No Man’s Land) exists. I have shot deer there and never recovered them (I hope they lived, but can’t say for sure). Like Derek, I have seen/ videoed 2 different bucks that were shot there walking around days later with arrow marks on their sides.

Yes, some people believe it is possible for an arrow to slip through when a buck exhales and contracts his lungs. I am starting to think this might be the case. Others think there is simply a small dead space (no vitals) high, no matter if the lungs are full of air or flat.

Others think No Man’s Land is a myth!

Two blogs I wrote are still very popular and pop up on archery forums for discussion from time to time. If you missed them, click here and here. Great info and hunter comments.

This is a fascinating topic with no definitive answer. There will never be a definitive answer because as long as we bowhunt, some bucks will duck/twirl the string, and some of our arrows will hit high in various places and at weird angles (some high shots due to the deer dropping, others due to our human tendency to aim higher than we should on the vitals).

Whether a buck is calm or spooky (and especially if he’s alert) force yourself to hold lower on the top of the heart!

It’s been more than a year since we discussed the Dead Zone. Do you think it exists? Has something weird happened in the woods to change your mind? Have you shot a deer too high recently--what happened? We can never talk about it too much because it is such an integral part of the game. Your new thoughts and perspectives make us think, and the more we think the better we hunt. comment 


Comments
Silverback's Gravatar I feel that the whitetail deer is an animal the the MOST "will to live" drive that I have ever seen. No man's land zone or not, sometime they will give to trouble recovering on a great vital shot, non the less a shot that somehow did not crush the vitals. I have seen whitetails do incredible things after being shot. I have first hand knowledge of hitting a nice buck with an arrow from a tree stand. ONE LUNG, 200 yards of blood trail, then watch him chasing does a month later. We couldn't take 100th of the pain a whitetail can.
# Posted By Silverback | 4/28/11 12:30 PM
Tom's Gravatar I had a slightly different experience. I hit a doe high last year in the so called dead zone. I was sure I would find her if I gave her some time. I waited approx. three hours and followed her about a half mile. Often I saw blood high on popple saplings where she had brushed up against. However she never laid down. The trail went straight to the lake and disappeared. I assume she had turned at the shoreline and headed one way or the other. After about three hours of not finding a single drop of blood, we gave up. A week later a friend found a dead doe in the lake. She had swum (or possibly drifted) across our lake, distance of about 1/2 mile. I don't know if she would of survived if she hadn't tried to swim. Also this is the first deer in 45 years of hunting and trailing deer, that has ever taken to the lake like that.
# Posted By Tom | 4/28/11 1:01 PM
Scott from MI's Gravatar Im still in the same boat as i was back then, heres a copy of my post.

"Im not so sure on no man's land. Im in the same boat as a few others here, i think if your going to hit a deer anywhere in
the rib cage area below the spine your going to hit vitals and 90% of the time that deer will die. Might not be that day or
next, could be a few days or a couple weeks but most likely it will die. Sure there is a chance it might make it but very small
chance."

Silverback sums it up pretty good as well but who knows for sure...just try to make sure and hit em in the boiler room.
# Posted By Scott from MI | 4/28/11 2:01 PM
Cary Dion's Gravatar A friend of mine shot a nice buck and blood trailed it for a mile in the dark only to have the trail peter out. Three weeks later during the gun season he shot the same buck chasing a doe. Sure enough, the wound had started to heal but there was a hole on each side of the deer below the spine but above the lungs. It was pure luck to get another crack at the same buck. There is a dead zone.
# Posted By Cary Dion | 4/28/11 3:52 PM
David in NC's Gravatar I have shifted my perspective from those earlier posts some. After continuing research, I have found that most arrows that hit the "Dead Zone" really are sliding just over the spine. In real time, our eye can't pick it up, but that is the case. In reality, the lungs fill the entire chest cavity, whether inhaled or exhaled, because there is a vacuum. The only way the lung drops from the top of the chest cavity is if you were to break that vacuum. While the arrow does penetrate this cavity, it happens at such a speed, that the lungs would still be pressed against the top of the cavity. I think 90% of the "dead zone" shots are over the spine. The other 10% are just unlucky, and they barely clip a small portion of lung allowing the deer to survive. It definitely exists as we perceive it, but in reality it is an optical illusion.
# Posted By David in NC | 4/28/11 6:10 PM
Anon's Gravatar I'm wondering why he was good enough to shoot the first time around and not the second. You even say he was limping. Wether it might end up being a fatal wound or not I guess I'm not following the logic on that one. Seems you could have closed the book on that chapter of the story.
# Posted By Anon | 4/29/11 12:11 AM
Dean Weimer's Gravatar "Well I don't care if you think that I'm crazy...and I don't care if you think that I'm mad...I got some news for you here little girl...that I'm the best thing that you've ever haaad!"

"No...man's...land...catch me if you can! No...man's...land...catch me if you can!"

I couldn't help myself. A little Uncle Ted for this blog.

Carry on Gents!!!
# Posted By Dean Weimer | 4/29/11 10:26 AM